In this episode Andy Bast sat down with Bruce Benedict, chaplain of worship arts at Hope College and founder of Cardiphonia, to talk about the retuned hymn movement–in which musicians compose new music to old hymn texts.

Songwriter and worship leader Wendell Kimbrough discusses how music, and specifically singing the Psalms, can be an outlet for emotion and lament that leads to more fruitful civil dialogue within the church.